Your Name    Monisha Ashok
Interviewee’s Name    Santiago Paz Lopez
Title    Deputy Manager of Cepicafe
Organization    Cepicafe

Introduction
Santiago Paz Lopez is the deputy manager of Cepicafe and works directly with the general manager to oversee the day to day operations of the organization. Cepicafe is an association of small coffee producer organizations in the Piura Mountains in Peru that uses a market intermediary model to promote fair trade and secures higher prices for coffee producers by establishing direct links to local and international markets.

Question #1
Can you tell me more about how Cepicafe has transitioned from being a nonprofit to being a for-profit business that is financially sustainable?

Cepicafe began in 1995 as a small organization and has now grown to include more than 90 organizations and over 6,600 coffee farmers. My job of managing the organizations is getting harder and harder. The farmers do not need to use middle men to take their coffee to markets in larger cities like Lima or Cusco,  and can directly take thier coffee to local or even international markets with Cepicafe. They are now getting a higher price for their coffee and are able to provide for thier families, so they are willing to pay a small price for Cepicafe’s services that help them reach these local and international markets. It is my job to ensure that all of the organizations are growing rich Peruvian coffee, better than Colombian coffee, and that they have access to markets and can get higher prices.  For money, Cepicafe also gets help from the partner organization, PEDICAFE. We have also recently started a company called ECOCAFE that generates profits.

Question #2
Now that you have told me more about how Cepicafe is becoming financially sustainable, can you tell me more about social sustainability? What is the social impact that Cepicafe makes on the Piura Mountains in Peru?

“Farmers do not need to use middle men to sell their products on local or international markets and therefore, get higher incomes. They still do not get a large poriton of the retail price that coffee is sold at in the United States or Europe, but they are still able to get a higher poriton of the retail price. With this higher income, they are able to provide for thier families, send thier children to school, and have better healthcare, or even buy more equipment for thier farms. But these farmers live in rural areas in the Piura mountains and there are not that many schools or health care clinics so Cepicafe has helped build them.  Recently, we helped with a project to improve cooking stoves.
Cepicafe also helps provide education for the farmers and trains them in organic farming practices. We partner with PEDICAFE to provide training for the farmers in these organic farming practice. For example, our farmers use drip irrigation to conserve water sometimes and also do not use too many chemical products. These environmental and ecological practices helps us to get fair trade certification and reach specialized markets. Most farmers also teach the rest of thier family members on these organic farming practices so that they can continue these practices and earn higher incomes for generations. “

Question #3
How do you expect Cepicafe to grow in the future?

Cepicafe has grown a lot over past ten years. First, Cepicafe was only focusing on coffee producers and coffee products but now Cepicafe has already expanded and is now not only focusing on coffee, but also cocoa, a special sugarcane called panela granulated, and jams. We get certification that our farmers used organic production methods and then export the products to specialty markets in Germany, France, Switzerland, and Italy. We want to continue to expand our products and start selling the products in more countries, like the United States and in California. We want to expand our jam products. In 2006, we started making fruit jams and exported 2 crates and then increased to 7 crates. Nowe we are exporting 12 crates, one crate per month, but want to export more fruit jams.    Cepicafe is trying to diversity its products and reach more speciality markets in Europe and United States. We want to continue producing good coffee and earning high prices on the market and increasing the capabilities of our farmers. Ultimately, we care about improvind the livlihoods of the farmers. We are also discussing the idea of starting an alternative tourism business through the coffee farms in the Piura Mountains.

Question #4
Can you talk more about the rural and urban divide in Peru?

Peru is mostly urban now with rapidly growing cities. Although Lima is the capital and the largest city, there are still many other cities like Cusco, Ariquipa, or Iquitos and  that are growing. Many people are moving from the rural areas to the urban areas because there are better opportunities for industrial jobs and the government provides more services. People who still live in the rural areas only have agricultural jobs. Cepicafe is trying to help farmers get higher incomes so they have less of an incentive to move to urban areas.

Question #5
Many people in Peru only speak Qechua and cannot speak Spanish, especially the lower income rural populations. What can be done to overcome this cultural and language divide?

Peru has a large indigenous population that speaks Qechua, an ancient Incan language, and Peru recognizes it as an official language. However most people who speak Qechua have also learned how to speak Spanish, but there are still some people who only speak Qechua. The indigenous people who speak Qechua also tend to have lower incomes and are not educated and tend to live in rural areas. The Peruvian government has focused its services on Spanish speaking people who tend to live in the urban areas and has to provided as many services to the Quecha speaking people who live in more urban areas. Cepicafe operates mostly in Spanish but there are many people who can speak Qechua and can translate when necessary. Cepicafe does have many organizations, especially in the Chiclayo region, with Qeuchua speakers. We need to change some of our trainings if there are more Qeucha speakers than Spanish speakers.

Your Summary (150 words max)

Cepicafe has successfully used the fair trade model to eliminate the middle men and allows its coffee producers to gain access to local and international markets. This allows the farmers to get higher incomes, which gives them access to better healthcare and education. Cepicafe is becoming more financially stable because it is a growing organization that gets revenue from member dues that the farmers are willing to pay. It has also started a company that sells coffee products that generates revenue. I learned that Cepicafe is actually expanding its services and diversifying its products from just coffee to cocoa, sugarcane, and jams in order to reach more markets. Their ultimate goal is to make a social impact and improve the livelihoods of the farmers they work with and operate more like a nonprofit than a for-profit business.

I just finished watching a 60 Minutes piece on Paul Farmer. Excellent. Must see.

When you watch something like that, you only want to share it. It is absolutely inspiring.

I also think of his amazing speech at closing plenary of the Skoll World Forum. I think of meeting him briefly in Oxford in a tent in the rain.

But most of all, I think how I can follow in his footsteps. I better make use of my life to make as much of a difference as I can. Because as a woman born in this country I am so lucky. So blessed. It would be shame if I wasted that blessing.

I have wanted a video camera for such a long time.  As a fan of good storytelling, I have been curious to see if I could learn to tell the stories that matter to me.  But the cost of the equipment has been holding me back from following through on my dreams and taking it up as a hobby.

Last summer when I was in Tanzania as a Kiva Fellow, I got a crazy request from the Director of PR.  She needed me to film a Kiva client for a story they were doing for The Today Show.  I had to see if I could find a camera, buy some film and find Rehema Hamisi and interview her.

It was a tough assignment for me.  I had never really held a camera and had to do some google searching to try to find the basic instructions.  I knew to hold the camera still and try to get the sun in the background but that was about it.  I totally had to wing it.  Somehow I managed to pull it off and capture enough good film that it was used in the story.

I have to tell you I was so excited when I got this feedback from Amy Unell, a producer at the Today Show:
“THE FOOTAGE LOOKS AND SOUND GREAT!!!!
Rox Star – I’m dying to know, what do you do when you are not doing wonderful things in Tanzania?  You’re a great journalist!”

My response at the time was :
Amy,
Thanks for the wonderful compliment..you made my morning!  When I was growing up I always told people I wanted to be Jane Pauley…so I’ll have to forward your email to my mom :)
Outside of volunteering for Kiva I have worked in marketing at Yahoo! and will be starting bschool at Berkeley in the fall. Long-term I want to start my own socially-responsible business.  At home in SF I Tivo lots of news shows…so maybe all those years of watching 60 Minutes and Dateline have helped me out.
Thanks again for the compliment and it’s been a pleasure working with you!
-Roxanne

Between you and me, I don’t watch Dateline, but I felt like I had to say that since she was from NBC.

But the whole experience had really left me wanting to learn more!  I was so frustrated when I was filming because I knew I wasn’t doing a great job, but I didn’t know what to do to make it better.

Lucky for me, today was my day to learn what to do. Larry Warner, an accomplished documentary filmmaker and photographer who films for CBS news programs like 60 Minutes and 48 Hours, trained me in documentary filmmaking techniques.  Yes, somehow I lucked into getting trained by a guy who works with the team at 60 Minutes.  Wow, I am so, so, so LUCKY.

This wasn’t a one-on-one training.  It was part of a larger training on story telling that the Blum Center put together for this year’s group of Blum Fellows.  There were 25 of us there soaking up everything that Larry was dishing.

Larry was AMAZING.  He is such a PRO in the business. I learned all kinds of things.  For instance, for every scene, you should get a wide show, medium shot, close-up and cutaway. If there is sound in the background, you cannot turn on and off the camera, you have to keep it running while you are moving so that you can edit the film together later without having to cut all the noise.  I learned how to compose the picture, how close a real close-up should be, how to fill the frame and most importantly how long to hold a shot.

As part of the training we did a group project. I worked with Will, a graduate student at UCSF and the School of Public Health, who will be going to Bangladesh to work on arsenic education and Priya, an undergraduate Peace and Conflict Studies major, who is going to Congolese refugee camps in Tanzania.  Amazing stuff.

When Larry critiqued our film, it was clear how much practice I was going to need to even get close to right.  Although the Blum Center is furnishing most of the teams with cameras, I’m determined to find a way to buy my own.  I want this project to be the beginning of my efforts to start capturing stories on film.  I want to practice before I get to Uganda. I want to try to film as much good stuff as I can so that maybe we could put together a mini-documentary when we get back.  How cool would that be?  SO COOL!

So now I’ve got my work to do.  I want to watch a bunch of documentary film or news reports with my new found knowledge.  I want to learn by what others do and I want to practice filming stories before I go.

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I’ve only lived in Dar for a few weeks and only know a handful of people but each week I’ve been here someone I know has lost a family member of friend without warning.

First my roommate’s uncle lost a daughter at the age of 2. She went to sleep and didn’t wake up — no symptoms, no warning. The worst thing is that this is his third daughter to die before reaching the age of three.

The following week my colleague’s friend’s father died instantly of a heart condition. The next week someone I met at dinner told me about his neighbor who was instantly killed in a car accident. The list goes on, six weeks and six sudden deaths. The life expectancy for Tanzania is only 44 years according to the UN. If my experience is any indication, I have plenty of examples of people who did not live to beyond that age. It’s quite different than the 79 year life expectancy for the US.

This week, the death hit closer to home. Yesterday Cecy told me that Anna, the woman who owned the food shop on the corner, had died the night before. This loss was more personal because I had gotten to know Anna and her husband over the past few weeks. I had purchased many things from Anna and always enjoyed exchanging Swahili greetings with her. Her eldest son was old enough to learn a little English and she would always prompt him to greet me with “Good Morning” or “Hello.” Sometimes he would say “Hello, Muzungu” in the cutest voice and wave. Her youngest son was still breast feeding, and one time she interrupted his meal to take care of my order. The little one looked up at me, slightly forlorn, probably wishing he could return to his meal in peace. I tried to make that transaction very quick! Anna’s husband and I also were on friendly terms and had shared a few beers with other men from the neighborhood one Friday evening. I really couldn’t believe that this young woman could be gone.

Cecy told me the story of Anna’s last evening. She wasn’t feeling well so she closed the stand at 7pm and went to a friend’s house. She decided to go to the clinic to see if she had malaria. So she strapped her baby on her back, left her eldest boy with a neighbor, and set out with a young friend for the clinic. She hadn’t made if far when she suddenly collapsed, hitting her face as she fell to the ground. The friend picked up the baby and ran back to the house screaming that “Mama Anna” had fallen and was unconscious. Friends found a car and picked her up and took her to the hospital. She had blood coming out of her nose and mouth. Shortly she was pronounced dead. The doctors said she had had a heart attack. She wasn’t even 28 years old.

All of this sudden death starts to wear down a person. It seems like there is more death here than I experience in my day-to-day life in the U.S. Life is hard in Tanzania. The tropical climate and limited access to medical care can make small illnesses life threatening. And then there are the other conditions that cause premature death that may have been found and treated with access to the right medical care.

I think about those boys who lost their mother so suddenly and I get very sad. Tonight Cecy and I will go over to pay our respects to the family. It’s tradition to give money to the family as well. But I know all too well that no sum of money can replace a beloved family member, wife or mother.

Oh, July 4th. My favorite holiday, really. I love watching fireworks on a warm summer night with family and friends. I was lucky enough to spend five 4ths in Washington, DC during my 20’s – and the fireworks over the mall are just the best! Two years ago I was in Dayton and spent time with Dan and his parents. Last year I was in Florence, Italy for the 4th and missed the celebrations back home. And now this year I’m abroad again. I’m fortunate to get to travel, but I wish I could be home for the 4th. I miss celebrating with other Americans! I think the US Embassy here is having a party on the 6th to celebrate, so maybe I can figure out a way to join in on those festivities.

I wish this was a story about an overnight flight to Kenya, but it’s not. I literally have red eye. It’s a bacterial infection of the eye which turns the whole eye red. The eye swells and it’s quite uncomfortable. And there is a bunch of mucus that comes out of the eye. Yeah, it’s really gross.

I’ve seen people around Dar with “red eyes” and my roommates warned me against shaking hands and making contact with people. I should always, always wash my hands if I touched anyone. I’ve been following their advice and using my antibacterial moisture wipes to keep myself clean.

But then my roommate, Cecy, caught red eye from a woman at work. She came home with it on Friday night. By Saturday both of her eyes were almost swollen shut. She kept glasses on and I kept my distance, but I wasn’t too surprised when Sunday morning my right eye started feeling uncomfortable. A few hours later the eye was swollen and itchy and red.

By Monday the infection had spread to the right eye. My roommate had some medicated eye drops to use and I cleaned the eyes with salt water (which is recommended). By Tuesday the eyes weren’t much better, so I went to see a doctor. She gave me new eye drops, in case the Cecy’s had been infected, and told me things should be better in a few days.

So, now it’s Wednesday. I woke up today and the eyes are not swollen by the whites of the eye are blood red. It’s hard to go out in public until my eyes return to white. People here believe that you can catch this illness by just looking at someone with red eyes so they avoid eye contact with you (reality is that you can only catch it through touch). I ventured out to a local internet cafe because after three days in the house I was going a bit stir crazy.
I’m hoping to be better by tomorrow and back to work!

Wow…Tanzania must be hot, hot, hot on the list of destinations for international traveler’s these days. I got word this week that I’ll have two more visitors. Josh, a friend from Penn, will be flying into Dar on July 26th and spending a night before heading to Uganda. Jen, a friend from SF, will be in Zanzibar from July 29th – August 1st. I’ll most likely go and join her and her friends for a little time on the beach before Amy arrives on August 1st.

Both Josh and Jen just finished their MBA programs in the states. I teased my roommates that they should start a travel agency for bschool students wanting to come to Tanzania, Kenya and Uganda — since they have experience living in all three places. Who knows, maybe we’ll get a website up before I leave. Goodness knows they could plan a great trip and could use the extra money to buy their diet pills!

I’ve recorded a few more posts for the Kiva Fellows Blog. If you’re interested, you can read them here:

Everything is Connected
http://fellowsblog.kiva.org/2007/06/30/thousands-of-small-businesses-%e2%80%93-everything-is-connected/

Meet a Seriel Entrepreneur
http://fellowsblog.kiva.org/2007/06/24/meet-a-serial-entrepreneur/

Oh, I was craving pancakes so when I saw the mix at the store, I just went ahead and bought it. It was over $4.50 USD but worth every penny. The pancakes (or I guess they call them crumpets in England?) were quite good and hit the spot. Too bad I couldn’t find any blueberries!